The Higher Ed Marketer
The Higher Ed Marketer

Episode · 2 weeks ago

How Schools Are Succeeding w/ One-to-One Video & Tik Tok

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

What’s the best way to garner the attention and interest of Gen Z? It’s communicating with them through the channels and mediums that they prefer.

Right now, that’s one-to-one video communication. In fact, the schools that have adopted one-to-one video communications are seeing up to 10 times more engagement from that channel than from their email campaigns.

In this episode, we sit down with Zach Busekrus, Founder & Brand Strategist at Enrollify, to discuss how schools are effectively wielding one-to-one video strategies to personalize communication and reach a wider swath of potential students.

We discuss:

-How one-to-one video is being utilized

- How schools should approach using Tik Tok

- Tactics for effectively leveraging SEO

- Other tools you should be using

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

- Listen to The Enrollify Podcast

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Of The folks that I've talked to, Imean they're, saying five, six, sometimes up to ten at more engagementfrom these wonder one videos and they see with their email camp. You were listening to the Higher EdMarketer, a podcast geared towards marketing professionals in highereducation. This show will tackle all sorts of questions related to studentrecruitment, donut relations, marketing, trans new technologies and so much more.If you are looking for conversation centered around where the industry isgoing, this podcast is for you, let's get into the show, welcome to the high red marketerpodcast work. Each week Mark Taylor and myself, Troy Singer interviewinfluences within the Higher Ed Marketer space that we admire and feelwould be interesting to our community. Today we have a gentleman who issomeone that we looked up to as we started our podcast. His name is ZackBozzaris and he is the founder of En rolley, which is not only a podcast,but it could be considered a platform for higher ed marketers or higher redenrolment professionals that gives great content yeah. I think that I'veadmired Zack for several years now. I was I've known him for a while. I'vealso been on the enrolled podcast early on, and we make reference to that inthe conversation. But one of the things I really like about Zack is because hisjob is focused entirely on developing hired content. He really has a chanceto learn about a lot of new things, and so he's got a really great little thingthat he does on Fridays called Fri ideas. I've learned about some newthings that I've then shared with my clients, just through his little thirtyminute, loom video, and I really appreciate Zach because he's aconsuming learner and he tries to always try to find new things,especially in the digital world, in technology and utilizing those thingsand a lot of people that he talks to on the podcaster leaders and vendors inproviding that. But I think you know,...

...regardless of that, I think Zach isjust. Has a passion about higher end has a passionate about enrollment and Ithink you'll really hear that come through in today's conversation, yes,and since we've already had our conversation with him, I can also sayhe gives some really good advice, especially for marketing for socialmedia, and I think it would be to our listeners advantage to really takenotes and then follow some of those recommendations, yeah and stick aroundall the way at the end, because a couple of his last points, even at liketwenty eight minutes, are gold, so don't bail early agreed. So here isZach Buzzacot my pleasure to welcome Zack boozy cruise to the Higher EdMarketer, podcast and Zac. My initial question to you is: how does it feel to be on that side ofthe microphone you know it's funny to this is actuallymy third podcast interview. Well, third, M, third time being I guess in the hotseat, its becaue didn't another podcast, and then I had a web in R, which wasbasically a podcast interview and that's very, very unusual, and so Ithink the last time I was even on a podcast was months ago. So to to answeryour question a little bit directly. It's it's scary, it's harder when youdon't have control over the conversation, much easier to ask thequestions in my experience, but it's a it's a privilege to be here, and youknow I a big fan of all the episodes you guys have put out and what you'rebuilding here and happy to join you for today's conversation. Thank you, Zackand if you would tell everyone a little bit about yourself and your veryrelevant higher Ed podcast. Well, I like to tell folks is: I get to spendmost of my time talking with people that are a lot smarter than me aboutthings that I know little to nothing about, and essentially I just spendmost of my time, acting like a sponge and understanding leaders in marketingboth inside and outside of Higher Ed.

What are they thinking about? What arethe sorts of stratened tactics that they're the most excited about at anygiven moment were lacing success, and then I get to help sort of liketranslate that into context and content that you know is hopefully interestingto folks that folks might find helpful and valuable and just find you know,creative ways to encourage people to adopt some of these strategies andtactics and make them work within. You know their unique context, so yeah forthose, I guess who do aren't aware. I found it Rolf and in relives a robustresource of podcast and videos and e courses, and really sort of our missionis just to empower enrollment marketers, which we define is anyone working inmarketing or admissions for a college, a university with tools, and you know,resources and ideas for how to optimize. You know the resources that they doactually have to get the results that they need. So I spend a ton of my timecreating lots of content talking with folks all over the hired spectrum andhave a lot of fun while, while doing it, so that's a little bit about me and whoI am and what I do that's great thanks. Thanks back, it's good to you know, getback together on a podcast with you, and I think you guys recentlycelebrated a hundred episodes on the enroll of Fi, I'm sure you're at ahundred and ten now or whatever. But I think I was episode. Sixteen and earlyadopter bark was so there were probably three people listening, but a right. It's gone a lot of since then,but you so. I've always enjoyed listening to the podcast. I think youreally talked to a lot of really good leaders, and probably some of them arecrossing over with what who were talking to as well, but I know one ofthe things that I always really appreciate, not only your your roll offie podcast, but you also have a Friday's O. I don't know how youpronounce it. He is right, but yes, yeah. So the idea of every Friday. Youcome up with new ideas, and I always...

...find that just extremely helpful, and Iknow one of the things that you and I talked about offline before we gotstarted was just this whole idea of you know some of the new ways of reallyimplementing personalization into Higher Ed Marketing. We've talked aboutthat on a level several episodes, and it really continues to be one of thetrends in high red marketing is the idea of generation, Z and then you knowsoon to come generation Alpha. They really are demanding morepersonalization and they want to be known, and it seems like one of theways to do. That is kind of that. You know utilizing one to one video, and Iknow one of the things that you've gotten excited about that, as as have I,and I'm just curious to you know, tell me a little bit about what you'relearning and how you are seeing that being leveraged and utilized yeah greatgreat question, and so, at the end of the day, I think what people areinterested in today is not dramatically different from what we've beeninterested in for decades, which is this idea of personalized communications. This ideaof really feeling understood as a consumer right and and appreciated,quite frankly, for the time and attention that you do dedicate to abrand and how I think that translates to to hire at is. I see students todaybeing very interested in schools that are actually using the channels andmediums and tactics that genz prefers to communicate in and using those forsomething that is, you know, can be scary, which is the the joint ofcollege, the journey to enrollment, and so the way that I see on to win videoright now being used by schools and the things that excites me most is, I feellike the schools that are adopting these these strategies, while stillrelatively early they're, showing gen Z that, like hey, we hear you, we see you.We know that you don't want to read a five hundred word email from us. Weknow that you know you, don't love spending your weekends reading. A twothousand word blond article from us, even if it is a student story right,you like video, you, like short, sweet...

...to the point, engaging content contentthat is entertaining content. That is, you know, inspirational con sense, thatis, educational, and it is just, quite frankly, a heck of a lot easier toproduce that kind of content via video and so to speak, a little bit more.Practically you know, schools that are implementing these wonder onecommunication. Video communication strategies are seeing incredibleengagement right now, right of the folks that I've talked to, I meanthey're, saying five, six, sometimes up to ten x, more engagement from thesewonder one videos and they see with their email, campans right, that'sphenomenal, like, and I think that video as a as a medium has also justcome a long way right, and I think Covin is actually to thank for this. Ithink people are more comfortable being on camera because of all the zoomvideos that we've all had to do that there's. Actually it's actually easierto get emissions, counselors and folks within your enrolment managementoperation, to adopt things like recording a quick little video to thanka student for coming to an event or recording a quick little post inquiry,video that they then blast to yeah. You know troy after he submitted an inquiryform whatever it might be. So I think that you know the schools that are adopting thesestrategies right now and understanding and getting really quite rightlycomfortable with video quick scrappy. Video production are the schools thatare going to see wonderful engagement, especially in the you know, post atpart of the funnel, but also in post inquiry. Oh yeah, and you know a toolthat I I've recommended. Decem folks recently is good kind. There they'redoing incredible work right now, trying to help colleges, universitiesimplement one one, video at scale and their product is their product isawesome and bar. I know that you have you've got another product that you'veused, that you love so yeah yeah I've been using Bombon, we had ethan, but onepisode, Twenty Six and I think he talked about kind of the certainlythat's one product. I mean good kind,...

Bom Bom, I've heard people using vidyard, it's a lot of different products out there. Some of them are moreoriented toward education and and have success in those. But I think that thewhole point- and this is what Ethan talked about- was the idea of thishuman relationship, this human ability that video gives you that you know atext and an email sometimes won't exactly, and you know, I think that oneof the concerns for some of the in Roman management leaders I spoken to islike well. My team is already doing so much like I what you really want me toget people to record a one to one video who's got time for that, but you know,I think, sometimes sending these quick little videos is actually easier thanyou know, writing on a long email, yeah, and I actually takes less time right soand a lot of these schools are getting more sophisticated. Where you know,they've got scripts that will run right by the camera, so it looks like they'relooking at the camera, even though you're reading off the script, so thesophomore has come a long way, and I do think this is a really interesting,viable, viable solution for folks that are looking to up their game in sort ofengagement land. Thank you. Zack speaking of mediums and where Gen Z isin communicating with them there, something that we hear a lot about ishow to utilize tick talk effectively for Higher Ed, and I think it said that,even though we know ninety percent of Gen Z is on tick tack. There is thisvery small percentage of Hirat institutions, utilizing it or maybeeven thinking that they want to go into it. I would like to hear any thoughtsthat you have about that yeah. It's funny. I was on a chat earlier todaywith Matt Didel Jin, who is the CO and Co founder of glacier and there he'saadvertising firm out of calgary canada, and they do a lot of research on thisstuff. And what that was striking with me is that yeah to your point, troylike ninety plus percent of genz, is on tick tock and less than nine percent ofhigher education institutions are right. So you know talk about sort of justlike a significant tas there right and...

...where the unique thing about tick, tock-and i think what's hard- is that if you're a college university and youwork with a partner- and you outsource a lot of your content creation to avender your used to that vendor. You know helping you right, blong contentor you know, create even video content on your behalf and that's a little biteasier to do that. You can then go and you know, run a facebook campaignaround or an instagram campin around. But the thing about tip tack is likeit's, so it's so personal and it really does require, like a representativefrom the college or university, to create the content. It's very hard tolike outsource that so, where we're seeing like really interesting successis when schools find a way to essentially build like an enous, tick,tock, creative agency and really what that looks like is finding studentsthat you can pay. And you really, you really really really should find a wayto pay them. Even if just you know a little bit here and there, but finestudents that are already active on tick tock, that are good contentcreators and invite them to help a pilot, your universities ticktock acount and work with them. Like you would your venour partner or even sortof your in house, you know marketing team but give them autonomy right andlet them they understand the platform natively right, like in ways that youknow i don't even understand the platform, let alone you know, someonewho's, vp or a college president, so give them a conomy, essentially build alittle in house, creative team and say look in where i think the vendor couldplay a role is, if you want to vendor, to help sort of coach. Folks and likeyou know, basically give them some idea around what the content strategy overthe over a twelve month season should look like you could get some supportthere, but at the end of the day, the content creators themselves really doneed to be the students at your college university. This is not a content typethat you can or should easily outsource, and i would even argue that many ofyour admissions counselors and folks on...

...your marking, he might also not be themost qualified people to be creating tictacks yeah. I would agree with that.It seems like it's a it's a unique platform that you have to natively kindof understand. I often till my clients, when i do different presentations withyou know, if you're not already slam, dunking it on instagram and otherthings, tick tock is probably like a three or four hundred level course, andyou really need to know what you're doing in the basic courses before youjump into that. Because you can, you can fail pretty fast, but i think thatyour ideas of really leveraging that internal team trusting them giving themautonomy. I think, makes a lot of sense. Yeah. I mean one last point on that. Tois that we are seeing some colleges, universities, who are prettyprogressive and they're trying to get ahead of the game here, and i thinkthat the schools that are doing this well are working with their marketingand their admission. Tens and they're saying look like we're not trying andthis this really takes, like you know, buying from from leadership here. Butwe don't want you to worry about our liright now right like like right now,tick tock is not a place to sort of measure impact on enrollment, like youcan't directly it's incredibly hard to do that right now, right, whereas withfacebook, google campaigns, you can understand pretty you know, assumingyou've got at least a little bit of software in place. What the impact onthese campaigns were on your enrollment. So if you were going to take amarketing attribution approach to tick, tock don't do it, but i do think thatschools that are at least right now right that will change in the nextcouple of years. But right now, like think about this, as like an investmentlike you, are you're not going to see a return on this, for you know five tenyears, maybe but the schools that do that are earlier doctors of thisplatform like it's not going away, and it's captured such significant marketshare of gens attention that, like it's really not optional, you've got iteither. The question is: how quickly are you going to figure out what to doin order to you know, earn prospects attention on that platform yeah, and ithink that your point earlier, the...

...entertainment, fast factor a lot oftimes. I like to call it entertainments yeah, where it's like. How do weeducate somebody? Brand awareness, someone through entertainment andyou've, got to realize that that's what it is right now and yeah- and i know iwas just say bart- and you know it- i couldn't agree more and mat from fromglacier- was just telling me that they just completed this survey of fourteenhundred perspective college student, but i believe, were ages. Sixteenthrough and six just sixteen and seventeen year olds, or probably geno,juniors and seniors, and this generation has the highest ad recalllike their avery call, is like something like five to tex, more thanmillennials adry call, and yet they only watch an ad for like an average oftwo seconds on tick, donkin snapchat. So the time actually engaging with thead is less right, but the recall of the brand that put it out is incrediblyhigh. So i share that only as a quick at on to say that, just because youcan't measure enrollment in you won't be able to measure in pace on an momentimmediately, would sack tout for at least a couple of years doesn't meanthat there isn't impact on a moment right right, very good. Well, i thinkanother another question that kind of goes along with that is, you know, kindof figuring out effective ways to measure that enrollment talked a littlebit about social media. Doing that, but i think a lot of ways. People don'trealize how just the content on their website could impact that, especiallyfrom a search engine, optimization standpoint, and i think that zack annow you and i you know- we work with different size schools. I mean smallschools, big schools and sois kind of the leveling agent. In a way, because imean somebody from a big, you know, a big public school can rank as well assomebody at a small school or vice versa in the sense of seo is kind ofthe great equalizer. So talk a little bit about how that works out and whatopportunities look like for for schools with search engine, optimization yeah.I know i love this question...

...because what's beautiful about so isit's it's! It's earned attention in its like truest of formats right like ifyou, if you are ranking well around a key term or a key word or a couple ofkey topics. If you've earned that authority right like you, no longerhave to spend money with you go trying to get. You know your ads in front ofusers that are searching for that particular key word, and so, when itcomes to so, i think the place to start is you have to understand what you'reactually writing for so many schools don't understand here where they'recurrently at right like and there's so many there are so many tools out therethat help. You understand this, like smosh mas, so a rap all these tools,you can run your domain through their software and get a sense for all thedifferent swords that you are organically already ranking, for so i'dsay when it comes to so, first and former shift understand kind of likewhere you're at you know. What are your base lines? What are you ranking for inthe first second third, fourth, fifth positions of google, but then also it'simportant to understand, ranking opportunities so like. Where do youexist on that, like second or third page of people and what terms rightthat your current you've got pages that are currently ranking on page to ofgoogle? Let's say in position fifteen like if those terms have incrediblemonthly search for you ma. Man like there are lots of people in any givenmonth, googling that particular term and right now, like you're on thatsecond page, but you're in position. Git team right, you and you want to winon that particular term. That is that's where you fo, that's where you shouldfocus your energy when it comes to so is figuring out like most immediatelypositions. Eleven through twenty is like what i like to tell folks go andfigure out where you're ranking for terms in positions eleven throughtwenty, that you would love to move on to the first page of google search,results for and then invest your time and energy and creating more contentaround those particular key terms and topics. S and to your point, guard sobeing this great equalizer. What i love...

...about this is that so much of higher edmarketing strategies and tactics do require money, and so is one of thosethings that like it, doesn't actually need to require money. It requires time-and you know time is money, but at the end of the day like we don't need to bespending tens of thousands of dollars to an you know: thirty thousand dollarson a digital advertising campaign. If you create enough compelling contentstrategically, you can win on those same terms and topics, for you know,quote unquote free and i think that that's that's a mist opportunity.Schools, schools, create a ton of content, a ton of content in any givenyear, but not all that content is thought about strategically. So the wayto think about sel, to put it a little bit more concisely, as you should notcreate content, you should not have content on your website. That's purpose right is to attract,engage or the light new students until you've done effective, so researchuntil you understand what you're rinking for and what you want to beranking for, but aren't making for. Yet you shouldn't create any piece ofstudent recruitment, oriented content, so first and formless figure out whatyou're rinking for already understand what you would like to rank for andthen use that insight to guide your in moment marketing strategy. That's great!That's that's! Some really really good insight there and i think that you knowschools that are going to implement that and really apply. That couldreally see a lot of really good things. Come from that and so excellent. Thankyou! Yeah before we wind up our podcast, wealways ask at the inseck. Is there something that you've either read orcome across or maybe have implemented that someone could implement next weekand see success with or moved to needle with the million dollar question right?Everyone wants results quickly and cheaply and...

...yeah with not a lot of time and effortright. So a couple of things come to mine, first and foremost so snatchettas a platform we haven't, but we haven't talked so much about that. Idon't know if you guys have talked with others about about snatcher, but againin my conversation with matt deligen earlier today. He was like you know, hewas saying: hey, stantent pm is incredibly low right now, and thequality leads that they are generating. The glaciers. Clients are generatingright now from snapchat is incredible and he's saying like she almost doesn'twant other people to know about this because he's like you know, we've gotschool spending three to five tousand dollars and stamp check campaigns andthey're, getting quality inquiries or quality event rcts to their campuses itdays, and so i think, snapchat as a platform. Again, it has incredibleengagement. Eighty eight percent of gens use stattit daily, so incredibleengagement, but it's also, i feel like it's one of those social channels thatjust doesn't get enough air time in in higher ad, even though again liketarget on eses were there, and i do think it's because people don'tnecessarily understand how to use that that. Well, i think a lot of the reasonwhy folks don't spend money on social form to your point earlier part is thatthey don't understand it. They don't use it themselves, so they have a veryhard time understanding why a seventeen year old would use it and or how acollege university would try to capture the attention of a seventeen year oldusing that platform right, but that pool seems to be converting atincredible rates right now, and the cost brack position of those of thoseleads coming from satchet are incredibly low completely. You knowcompared to like a facebook or instagram, so i would say, run a staticcampaign. Those are also very easy to get up and running. You can take static,creative and run it through snap japs creative tools to make it a little bitmore dynamic. So it looks like a video, so there there doesn't need to be likea heavy creative lift on and you can drop. You know twenty five hundreddollars to five k, whatever it might be on like a test campaign and get that upand running very very quickly. So...

...that's one idea. Another idea would be,i would say, like go sign up for a free trial of s m, rosher, a traps or masoor other so tools and run your domain through these the stopper tools. Youcan cancel the subscription right before you're charged, if you, if youdon't want to keep paying the fifty to a hundred bucks a month or whatever ittoss right, but that in town on understanding, oh my gosh, who knewthat we were ranking for best liberal arts college in wisconsin, with great student to faculty ratios, orsomething like that, like you might be winning on terms that youdon't even know that you're winning on and if you are winning on thoseparticular terms. The pages that are ranking well for those terms right, yousure, as heck better, have great conversion opportunities on that page.You should have a chap on on that page at simple, live chat, feature and atthe bare minimum of form right. An inquiry form that i makes it reallyeasy for prospects to. You know raise their and and say i'm interested inlearning more often times school spends so much time. Thinking about their homepage thinking about their formal inquiry pages that they forget the factthat a lot of their ranking pages are major or program pages and a lot of themajor and program pages don't actually have simple forms: imbedded on thatpage often times if they just have tas that redirect to other forms right, butlike go figure out where you're ranking for right now and make sure that thosepages have very, very easy frictionless ways for people to raise their hand andsay i want to learn more about your school. That's something that anyschool, no matter of your size, a matter your budget can do, and youcould do something like that within a twenty four hour period of time. Sothose are my two, my two ideas for you. That's a great point: zack and i'lljust build on that last. When we there was a blog post on a school websitethat we were working on, that we were unaware of, but it was. It wassomething about. You know it was. It was a bible college and it was aboutchurch planting and there's. You know,...

...there's there's a big movement aroundthat and a lot of people searching on that, well, that that particular posthad more traffic on it than the home page and all the other pages combinedyeah and the mist opportunity, because no one knew about that. I think aprofessor put it up, and you know that's just the way it happenssometimes is that there wasn't a collacion to their their their graduatelevel stuff that they were selling about church planning, and so when wechanged that implement of that. That you know was made a big impact becauseall of a sudden you've got all these people coming to the website. So again,to your point, not only using things like sm rush and these other tools, butalso looking at your gown, google and lytic to figure out what what do wehave traffic naturally coming to already. And how can we really makesure that we are ready for that traffic and converting it when it's there yeahone of one of the things that we like to say the folks. All the time, too, isthat you know school spend so much time thinking about how to get people totheir website right so much time to in genere, so much money and then oftentimes like once you get somebody to the website, it's like. Well, what do youwanted to do right like? How do you ensure that, now that you've got you'vegot the year you got to visit? You got to attention. How are you insuring thatyou're guiding the prospect to the information that her he is looking for?It is quickly away as possible and as it you know, and how do you at the endof the day and sure that their experience they can navigate throughyour sight in the way in which they want to navigate it, and i think thatthat's that's the ultimate goal, the ultimate bills. How do you essentiallyensure that you have personalized? You know down to the individual prospect asbest as you can the journey to enrollment, and how do you ensure thatyou've got me? You know technology the infrastructure necessary to make thatit as easy as possible. You know given, given all the other things on yourinstitutions plate, so love, good idea, it's not just about you know, figuringout how to get people to your website. You got to figure out what to do withthem. Once they're there right, perfect, wonderful content that you broughttoday zack, and we really appreciate you coming on to the program andbringing the knowledge and the energy...

...that you bring weekly on your podcast.So if you would before we go, please if you would tell everyone how they couldcontact you if they would like to and publicize and roll a five one more time,yeah you can. You can get in touch with me at zack zach, at an roll. If i gotorg or you can follow us on, you know we're on all social media platforms andc just head on our in now i out or we've bet tons and times of freeresources. So one of the things i like to tell everybody is like you can't buyanything from an rolley, so you know there's nothing, there's nothing thatin role fives trying to sell you other, then really really great content. Wehelp pay for that content with our amazing partners and sponsors, butwe're at the end of the day, trying to build a ton of free resources to helpin moment marketers who are working. You know as single man or singlewoman's sops and or you know, large public institutions that got you knowmassive teams of marketing, iims, professional, so fitty courses, podcastvideos, lots more at an rolinad ort, but thank you guys so much for the time.This has been a blast and big fan of what you guys are building troy. Youknow recently came into contact with you, but barkie known you for a whileand really really respect all the work that you do and thank you guys forcreating a space for these conversations to happen. Thanks backappreciate being on here. This has been great yeah. That's our pleasure, but doyou have any party words before we wind? This episode, you know, i don't havemany, because i think that you know zack was so articulate on so manythings, ranging from you know, using video for one to one personalization totalking about tick, tock and snap chat and some of the other social mediaopportunities and then just kind of getting into the whole idea of how toreally start leveraging. So with even with some of the free tools that areout there. I think that doing so and then really trying to convert peoplewhere they are. I think those are all excellent points. I think that i wouldjust encourage people just to kind of follow and roll afy start start takingadvantage of those free resources. I know a lot of the listeners that wehave on here have taken advantage of the resources that keeler solution hason our blogs and our on our podcast and...

...different elements, but you know checkout on mellific use, i think they've kind of been a little bit more of aclearing house for a lot of content, their original content, but also othercontent as well. So i would just encourage her but to check that out andfollows zack. The higher ed market podcast is sponsored by cale solutionsand education, marketing and brandon agency, and by thing patented, amarketing execution company specializing in printing and mailingsolutions for higher ed institutions. On behalf of my co host part kaylerentro singer, thanks again for joining us, you've been listening to the higher edmarketer to ensure that you never miss an episode subscribe to the show inyour favorite podcast player. If you are listening with apple podcast, we'dlove for you to leave a quick rating of the show, simply tap the number ofstars using the podcast deserves until next time. I.

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